Bitstamp To Be Banned By Theymos For Supporting BIP 101

BW on weibo: r/bitcoin mod, core supporter theymos proposed HF with new POW algorithm to get rid of Chinese miners -- Jihan Wu's response (weibo): those who use btcc's pool or exchange have no idea about the situation

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"Cobra-Bitcoin" (who totally isn't Theymos) threatens to destroy the only successful bit·coin exchange for supporting BIP 101.

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BW on weibo: r/bitcoin mod, core supporter theymos proposed HF with new POW algorithm to get rid of Chinese miners -- Jihan Wu's response (weibo): those who use btcc's pool or exchange have no idea about the situation

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I recently recounted the history of the block size controversy for someone and thought I'd repost it here

Bitcoin development was initially led by an anonymous figure named Satoshi Nakamoto who created the project "Bitcoin: a Peer-to-peer Electronic Cash System"
The project mostly languished in obscurity until in late 2010 it was revealed that Bitcoin was being used to evade the ban on Wikileaks contributions. (A good summary of Bitcoin's early history can be found here.)
Satoshi was opposed to Bitcoin being used for something as controversial as funding Wikileaks, and in one of his last messages, wrote "It would have been nice to get this attention in any other context. WikiLeaks has kicked the hornet's nest, and the swarm is headed towards us." (link). Satoshi vanished shortly thereafter.
When Satoshi disappeared, he left the project effectively in the control of Gavin Andresen, one of the early contributors to the project. Gavin has been characterized as something of a naive academic. It wasn't long before Gavin had been approached by the CIA and agreed to visit and do a presentation. So we know that Bitcoin was on the CIA's radar by 2011.
Bitcoin-as-introduced had an Achilles heel. To prevent a specific kind of denial-of-service attack, Satoshi had added a "block size limit" to prevent flooding attacks. Satoshi's plan was to raise the limit as usage increased. Satoshi and the early Bitcoiners such as myself did not envision that the limit might itself be a vulnerability. A near-complete history of the block size limit controversy is here. I'll attempt to summarize my experience with some references.
Now it's almost 2020, and by now we've all become much more attuned to the scope of what three-letter-agencies have been doing to manipulate social media platforms. But in 2012 that was tinfoil-hat stuff across most of the internet.
In 2012, the Bitcoin subreddit was one of the key places people went for discussion about what was happening in Bitcoin. That, and the bitcointalk forum. The history of what happened has been well documented with sources in places like here and here.
The TLDR is
Throughout all of this, Blockstream steadfastly argued that it didn't control the Bitcoin Core software. Blockstream pointed to Chaincode Labs who funded several key bitcoin developers and the MIT Media Labs "Digital Currency Initiative" who funded Gavin, Cory, and Wladimir. Gavin and Wladimir in particular had the authority to merge changes into the Bitcoin Core software and as such effectively could decide what did and did not go into the software. As an ostensibly academic organization, Gavin and Wladimir etc could act with intellectual honesty and without coercion.
Except Gavin left the Digital Currency Initiative in 2017, saying that while he wasn't pressured to quit, he "didn't want to feel obligated to any person or organization."
Fast forward to 2019, and we learn the fascinating news that the MIT Media Labs were funded in part by none other than Jeffrey Epstein, who it turns out just so happened to be a staunch advocate of the Blockstream approach. So really, Bitcoin development was corralled: Blockstream was paying a bunch of devs, and Blockstream-Friendly MIT Media Labs were paying the others.
If you're still reading this, you probably wonder what it is about the Blockstream strategy that is so "bad." Aren't they just proposing a different way to solve Bitcoin's problems?
The original idea for Bitcoin was a "peer to peer cash system" - - the idea being that if Alice wants to buy something from Bob, she can just give him some tokens - - just like cash.
The new vision of bitcoin promoted by Blockstream and Core is "store of value". Under this model, you buy Bitcoins like you might speculate on gold - you buy some and you hold it. Later, if you want to purchase something, you sell your Bitcoins for some other payment method (or use an IOU against a deposit, just like a bank), and use that for purchases.
It should be apparent after a moment of thought that the original concept (Alice hands Bob some cash which Bob can then spend how he likes) is vastly more disruptive than the model in which Alice buys Bitcoin on a government-regulated exchange, holds them hoping they'll appreciate in value, and then sells them for Euros or dollars. In model one, the currency is essentially outside the domain of gatekeepers, and could completely disintermediate the entire existing financial system just like Napster for money. In model two, Bitcoin is no more disruptive than shares of a gold fund.
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While /r/bitcoin was circle-jerking to the idea that no exchange would list the SW2x chain as BTC, Bitcoin Thailand's comment to the contrary was removed from the very same thread!

Post in question:
bitcointhailand's censored comment (permalink):
We ( plan to consider Segwit2x as BTC Bitcoin if it goes through as planned with 90%+ mining support.
We will follow whichever chain wins the mining battle. We are 100% reserve so even if all our users decided to pull their funds out during the fork we are fine with that and in fact would recommend it.
Edit: The comment was whitelisted an hour after I made this post.
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Jihan Wu: "All gain distributed to Bitmain from will be donated to promote uncensored Bitcoin communication channel."

Jihan Wu: submitted by Egon_1 to btc [link] [comments] is now more popular than in the USA!

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Can Theymos Please Resign?

Theymos was handed control of bitcointalk from Satoshi to look after the forum as a trustee. He is, technically, just doing a job, managing bitcointalk for the beneficiaries, being the community.
Clearly he is not doing a very good job at it as numerous hacks can attest. Whether it is because of lack of experience, or because he is too busy, Theymos, if you care about the community and the trust that has been given to you, can you please resign?
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Fugitive Escapes From Segwit Maximum Security Prison

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BTCC fully supports the New York Agreement. Here's how we plan to deal with bitcoin scaling upgrades.

BTCC fully supports the New York Agreement. Here's how we plan to deal with bitcoin scaling upgrades. submitted by btcc_official to btc [link] [comments]

Bitstamp given ultimatum by Theymos.

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Long live decentralized bitcoin(!) A reading list

Newbs might not know this, but bitcoin recently came out of an intense internal drama. Between July 2015 and August 2017 bitcoin was attacked by external forces who were hoping to destroy the very properties that made bitcoin valuable in the first place. This culminated in the creation of segwit and the UASF (user activated soft fork) movement. The UASF was successful, segwit was added to bitcoin and with that the anti-decentralization side left bitcoin altogether and created their own altcoin called bcash. Bitcoin's price was $2500, soon after segwit was activated the price doubled to $5000 and continued rising until a top of $20000 before correcting to where we are today.
During this drama, I took time away from writing open source code to help educate and argue on reddit, twitter and other social media. I came up with a reading list for quickly copypasting things. It may be interesting today for newbs or anyone who wants a history lesson on what exactly happened during those two years when bitcoin's very existence as a decentralized low-trust currency was questioned. Now the fight has essentially been won, I try not to comment on reddit that much anymore. There's nothing left to do except wait for Lightning and similar tech to become mature (or better yet, help code it and test it)
In this thread you can learn about block sizes, latency, decentralization, segwit, ASICBOOST, lightning network and all the other issues that were debated endlessly for over two years. So when someone tries to get you to invest in bcash, remind them of the time they supported Bitcoin Unlimited.
For more threads like this see UASF

Summary / The fundamental tradeoff

A trip to the moon requires a rocket with multiple stages by gmaxwell (must read)
Bram Cohen, creator of bittorrent, argues against a hard fork to a larger block size
gmaxwell's summary of the debate
Core devs please explain your vision (see luke's post which also argues that blocks are already too big)
Mod of btc speaking against a hard fork
It's becoming clear to me that a lot of people don't understand how fragile bitcoin is
Blockchain space must be costly, it can never be free
Charlie Lee with a nice analogy about the fundamental tradeoff
gmaxwell on the tradeoffs
jratcliff on the layering

Scaling on-chain will destroy bitcoin's decentralization

Peter Todd: How a floating blocksize limit inevitably leads towards centralization [Feb 2013] mailing list with discussion on reddit in Aug 2015
Nick Szabo's blog post on what makes bitcoin so special
There is academic research showing that even small (2MB) increases to the blocksize results in drastic node dropoff counts due to the non-linear increase of RAM needed.
Reddit summary of above link. In this table, you can see it estimates a 40% drop immediately in node count with a 2MB upgrade and a 50% over 6 months. At 4mb, it becomes 75% immediately and 80% over 6 months. At 8, it becomes 90% and 95%.
Larger block sizes make centralization pressures worse (mathematical)
Talk at scalingbitcoin montreal, initial blockchain synchronization puts serious constraints on any increase in the block size with transcript
Bitcoin's P2P Network: The Soft Underbelly of Bitcoin someone's notes: reddit discussion
In adversarial environments blockchains dont scale
Why miners will not voluntarily individually produce smaller blocks
Hal Finney: bitcoin's blockchain can only be a settlement layer (mostly interesting because it's hal finney and its in 2010)
petertodd's 2013 video explaining this
luke-jr's summary
Another jratcliff thread

Full blocks are not a disaster

Blocks must be always full, there must always be a backlog
Same as above, the mining gap means there must always be a backlog talk: transcript:
Backlogs arent that bad
Examples where scarce block space causes people to use precious resources more efficiently
Full blocks are fine
High miner fees imply a sustainable future for bitcoin
gmaxwell on why full blocks are good
The whole idea of the mempool being "filled" is wrong headed. The mempool doesn't "clog" or get stuck, or anything like that.


What is segwit

luke-jr's longer summary
Charlie Shrem's on upgrading to segwit
Original segwit talk at scalingbitcoin hong kong + transcript
Segwit is not too complex
Segwit does not make it possible for miners to steal coins, contrary to what some people say
Segwit is required for a useful lightning network It's now known that without a malleability fix useful indefinite channels are not really possible.
Clearing up SegWit Lies and Myths:
Segwit is bigger blocks
Typical usage results in segwit allowing capacity equivalent to 2mb blocks

Why is segwit being blocked

Jihan Wu (head of largest bitcoin mining group) is blocking segwit because of perceived loss of income
Witness discount creates aligned incentives
or because he wants his mining enterprise to have control over bitcoin

Segwit is being blocked because it breaks ASICBOOST, a patented optimization used by bitmain ASIC manufacturer

Details and discovery by gmaxwell
Reddit thread with discussion
Simplified explaination by jonny1000
Bitmain admits their chips have asicboost but they say they never used it on the network (haha a likely story)
Worth $100m per year to them (also in gmaxwell's original email)
Other calculations show less
This also blocks all these other cool updates, not just segwit
Summary of bad consequences of asicboost
Luke's summary of the entire situation
Prices goes up because now segwit looks more likely
Asicboost discovery made the price rise
A pool was caught red handed doing asicboost, by this time it seemed fairly certain that segwit would get activated so it didnt produce as much interest as earlier and and
This btc user is outraged at the entire forum because they support Bitmain and ASICBOOST
Antbleed, turns out Bitmain can shut down all its ASICs by remote control:

What if segwit never activates

What if segwit never activates? with and


bitcoinmagazine's series on what lightning is and how it works
The Lightning Network ELIDHDICACS (Explain Like I Don’t Have Degrees in Cryptography and Computer Science)
Ligtning will increases fees for miners, not lower them
Cost-benefit analysis of lightning from the point of view of miners
Routing blog post by rusty and reddit comments
Lightning protocol rfc
Blog post with screenshots of ln being used on testnet video
Video of sending and receiving ln on testnet
Lightning tradeoffs
Beer sold for testnet lightning and
Lightning will result in far fewer coins being stored on third parties because it supports instant transactions
jgarzik argues strongly against LN, he owns a coin tracking startup
luke's great debunking / answer of some misinformation questions
Lightning centralization doesnt happen
roasbeef on hubs and charging fees and

Immutability / Being a swiss bank in your pocket / Why doing a hard fork (especially without consensus) is damaging

A downside of hard forks is damaging bitcoin's immutability
Interesting analysis of miners incentives and how failure is possible, don't trust the miners for long term
waxwing on the meaning of cash and settlement
maaku on the cash question
Digital gold funamentalists gain nothing from supporting a hard fork to larger block sizes
Those asking for a compromise don't understand the underlying political forces
Nobody wants a contentious hard fork actually, anti-core people got emotionally manipulated
The hard work of the core developers has kept bitcoin scalable
Recent PRs to improve bitcoin scaleability ignored by the debate
gmaxwell against hard forks since 2013
maaku: hard forks are really bad

Some metrics on what the market thinks of decentralization and hostile hard forks

The price history shows that the exchange rate drops every time a hard fork threatens:
and this example from 2017 btc users lose money
price supporting theymos' moderation
old version
older version
about 50% of nodes updated to the soft fork node quite quickly

Bitcoin Unlimited / Emergent Consensus is badly designed, changes the game theory of bitcoin

Bitcoin Unlimited was a proposed hard fork client, it was made with the intention to stop segwit from activating
A Future Led by Bitcoin Unlimited is a Centralized Future
Flexible transactions are bugged
Bugged BU software mines an invalid block, wasting 13 bitcoins or $12k employees are moderators of btc
miners don't control stuff like the block size
even gavin agreed that economic majority controls things
fork clients are trying to steal bitcoin's brand and network effect, theyre no different from altcoins
BU being active makes it easier to reverse payments, increases wasted work making the network less secure and giving an advantage to bigger miners
bitcoin unlimited takes power away from users and gives it to miners
bitcoin unlimited's accepted depth
BU's lying propaganda poster

BU is bugged, poorly-reviewed and crashes

bitcoin unlimited allegedly funded by kraken stolen coins
Other funding stuff
A serious bug in BU
A summary of what's wrong with BU:

Bitcoin Unlimited Remote Exploit Crash 14/3/2017
BU devs calling it as disaster also btc deleted a thread about the exploit
Summary of incident
More than 20 exchanges will list BTU as an altcoin
Again a few days later

User Activated Soft Fork (UASF)

site for it, including list of businesses supporting it
luke's view
threat of UASF makes the miner fall into line in litecoin
UASF delivers the goods for vertcoin
UASF coin is more valuable
All the links together in one place
p2sh was a uasf
jgarzik annoyed at the strict timeline that segwit2x has to follow because of bip148
Committed intolerant minority
alp on the game theory of the intolerant minority
The risk of UASF is less than the cost of doing nothing
uasf delivered the goods for bitcoin, it forced antpool and others to signal (May 2016) "When asked specifically whether Antpool would run SegWit code without a hard fork increase in the block size also included in a release of Bitcoin Core, Wu responded: “No. It is acceptable that the hard fork code is not activated, but it needs to be included in a ‘release’ of Bitcoin Core. I have made it clear about the definition of ‘release,’ which is not ‘public.’”"
Screenshot of peter rizun capitulating

Fighting off 2x HF
b2x is most of all about firing core

Misinformation / sockpuppets
three year old account, only started posting today
Why we should not hard fork after the UASF worked:


Good article that covers virtually all the important history
Interesting post with some history pre-2015
The core scalabality roadmap + my summary from 3/2017 my summary
History from summer 2015
Brief reminders of the ETC situation
Longer writeup of ethereum's TheDAO bailout fraud
Point that the bigblocker side is only blocking segwit as a hostage
jonny1000's recall of the history of bitcoin

Misc (mostly memes)

libbitcoin's Understanding Bitcoin series (another must read, most of it)
github commit where satoshi added the block size limit
hard fork proposals from some core devs
blockstream hasnt taken over the entire bitcoin core project
blockstream is one of the good guys
Forkers, we're not raising a single byte! Song lyrics by belcher
Some stuff here along with that cool photoshopped poster
Nice graphic
gmaxwell saying how he is probably responsible for the most privacy tech in bitcoin, while mike hearn screwed up privacy
Fairly cool propaganda poster
btc tankman
asicboost discovery meme
gavin wanted to kill the bitcoin chain
stuff that btc believes
after segwit2x NYA got agreed all the fee pressure disappeared, laurenmt found they were artificial spam
theymos saying why victory isnt inevitable
with ignorant enemies like these its no wonder we won ""So, once segwit2x activates, from that moment on it will require a coordinated fork to avoid the up coming "baked in" HF. ""
a positive effect of bcash, it made blockchain utxo spammers move away from bitcoin
summary of craig wright, jihan wu and roger ver's positions
Why is bitcoin so strong against attack?!?! (because we're motivated and awesome)
what happened to #oldjeffgarzik
big blockers fully deserve to lose every last bitcoin they ever had and more
gavinandresen brainstorming how to kill bitcoin with a 51% in a nasty way
Roger Ver as bitcoin Judas
A bunch of tweets and memes celebrating UASF | | | | | | | | | | | |
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Jihan Wu (AntPool): "Release means a well tested and compiled and ready for production use release. That is in the HK meeting context."

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The Truth About Bitcoin's Loss of Market Share

There are multiple reddit users like mrxsdcuqr7x284k6 claiming or implying in this thread that Bitcoin's huge loss of market share is not a result of the Bitcoin Core small block policy.
I don't know what the exact market share of Bitcoin would be right now if Bitcoin was not successfully derailed by people like Greg Maxwell & Theymos who fought hard to stop even small block size increases. What I do know is that the huge loss of market share Bitcoin has undergone and the growth of other crypto currencies is largely the result of what they did.
Anyone who is honest & intelligent and was around before, during and after Bitcoin lost massive market share, knows that the cause of this massive loss of market share and the growth of many other cryptos was a direct result of the artificial constraining of the transaction processing capacity of Bitcoin.
This is not merely a hindsight claim. Vast numbers of Bitcoiners TOLD EVERYONE that this is what would happen if the block size was not increased.
The only people who didn't see this coming (or claimed they didn't see it coming) are the Bitcoin Core supporters from that time who promoted Greg Maxwell's alternative design for Bitcoin.

So what was the Bitcoin Core message of 2015?

Check this 2015 Bitcoin Core blog post:
Note it says:
We don’t expect fees to get as high as the highest seen in this table; they are just provided for reference.
What is the highest listed fee in the table? $0.756
What were the highest median fees during December of 2017? OVER $30
Over just the last 6 months there have been multiple median fee spikes that go above this supposed "high" value of $0.756

What was the message of the Bitcoiners who wanted to follow Satoshi's plan during 2015?

Here's Mike Hearn in 2015 in an interview saying that the people that don't want to the block size to be increased want users to migrate to other system when the block size fills up. Whether the people he is referring to actually did want that or not is irrelevant. This is just one example (of 1000s that could be dug up) of Bitcoiners stating plainly that failure to bump the block size will lead to people migrating to other systems.
Here is what Mike Hearn predicted would happen if the block size isn't raised:
The aftermath
Bitcoin would eventually recover. Users who became frustrated at the extreme unreliability would give up and stop trying to spend their coins. Many coins would make it to an exchange wallet and stay there. Node operators would make their nodes auto-restart. SPV wallets would find some trustworthy central authority to get fee data from.
Most importantly, the overload would eventually go away …. because the users would go away. The backlog would clear. Fees would fall to the minimum again.
So life would go on.
Bitcoin would survive.
But it would have lost critical momentum. It would have become the MySpace of digital currencies. The faithful would have lost a lot of faith, and businesses that were trying to bring Bitcoin to the mainstream would “pivot” towards something else. People who were motivated by Making The World A Better Place™ would conclude the ordinary people around them would never use their products, and so they’d leave.
There are many details in Mike's blog post that he predicted wrong, but it's clear that he knew that the Bitcoin network would be degraded because of this fully saturated, small block policy. He knew users would leave the system.
Here's Jeff Garzik in 2015 warning people about the economic change event that will occur if the block size is not increased.
What did Gavin Andresen say would likely happen as a result of the small block policy? He said:
If the number of transactions waiting gets large enough, the end result will be an over-saturated network, busy doing nothing productive. I don’t think that is likely– it is more likely people just stop using Bitcoin because transaction confirmation becomes increasingly unreliable.
These are just a tiny sample of comments from prominent Bitcoiners. They are not anomalous. They are representative of what everyone fighting against this small-block policy was saying.
Please don't let these ignorant fools & gaslighting snakes deceive you or others.
I remember exactly what happened back then. I also know exactly what Bitcoin is and which chain is Bitcoin.
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I Flipped and Support Core After Understanding All The Arguments, But It Was NOT EASY (Explained)

I support core after understanding all the arguments. As a newbie developer, I am looking forward to working on some ideas for Lightning. Payment channels are very exciting. I am also a merchant that receives Bitcoin every day at Khemcorp.
Exchanges are bad:
The NYA agreement in my view shows that Bitcoin isn't anywhere close to as decentralized as we like. Clearly, the first generation Bitcoin companies have themselves become a monopoly and choke point on Bitcoin. More technologically advanced solutions are required instead of exchanges.
Local bitcoins offers a clumsy picture of how we could circumvent big businesses from choking Bitcoin.
I still don't think Jeff Garzik meant any harm (but his supporters certainly did). Core could have done a better job with this politically, it didn't need to go down this way IMO.
Here is why:
  1. Nobody made it easy to understand the arguments of core. All I really needed was just 1 long blog post by Blockstream explaining why 1mb blocks make sense, how the team has been maintaining this since 2012, overseeing the most successful growth of Bitcoin, how larger blocks shifts power to miners. How it doesn't end with 2mb because it shifts the ownership to a group of companies with vested interests, instead of one company (Blockchain) that has been working on decentralized L2 technologies. Blockstream CAN be transparent about their profit motives, in fact THEY ARE on their website. All this to me, is just ineffective communication.
  2. I really wish to appeal to mods like theymos to loosen up the soft bans. I was forced to btc because I could not voice my alternative views here. It became clear to me after a while this was the reddit with the smart people. I understand the want of core to protect themselves from trolling and shilling, but I think if you let the conversations flow, people will get it.
  3. Whenever I think of supporting core I think of people like Samson Mow calling anyone who supports a fork to be a enemy of Bitcoin. This is incredibly vicious for someone who sits on Blockstream, which indirectly has a lot of influence on core code. Whatever your thoughts - This gave me an incredibly angry feeling. Some guy in a chair, acting like he owns Bitcoin. It certainly didn't give the correct impression.
I hope after this mess that core will finally look at extending a small block increase to alleviate the current situation before lightning and other L2 solutions are ready.
However between the likes of Jihan, Craig Wright, The Chinese Government and the banks/corps that support 2x and the argument of decentralization. I choose decentralization every time, no matter the cost of the fees.
Nobody is going to scale to visa levels without L2 solutions. We already see this problem with Ethereum, having to change from POW, amongst other things. The ecosystem size is the value of the blockchain, not the amount of transactions being done on it in my opinion. If we go by the argument of transactions, then many other coins would be superior.
Bitcoin is valuable because it acts like a cryptoasset that is censorship resistant.
We already have a win. China banning Bitcoin is a win. Let's keep winning!
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What about these statements against Roger and BCH?

I'm relatively new, still undecided between BTC/BCH. Roger seems very convincing and the things he says sound logical, yet a lot of people hate him. One example is this article.
Help me find the truth about Bitcoin.
EDIT: Thanks for the fast, on point answers! I certainly have a lot more reading to do.
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Real-life evidence of the breadown of Bitcoin's (BTC) security model.


This post presents a simple procedure that permits: 1) the invalidation of a transaction recently sent by a payer to a payee, and; 2) the clawback of the coins associated with the transaction.
This proof allows us to infer the following: a) Corecoin/SegWitcoin's trustlessness model is irremediably crippled. In this post, we call Corecoin/Segwitcoin the version of Bitcoin forcibly and probably intentionally degraded by a Blockstream-influenced developer group (for those who know about the politics of Bitcoin repository, you know I am being polite) b) The current crippled version of Bitcoin is unusable/untrustworthy for on-chain exchange-of-value (a critical property of money). c) Any contraption that does not display a critical property of money is not money.
Q.E.D.: **Corecoin/Segwitcoin is not money.**
Any investment made under the belief that Bitcoin is money is unsound and should be reconsidered. The effect of this discovery on the fiat value of Bitcoin (in USD or Euros) is yet to be quantified.
(long-read begins here, skip to DEMONSTRATION below if you are in a rush)


If we wanted to completely explain the reasoning underpinning every assertion of this demonstration, this post should be several thousands of words long. Therefore we will provide ample references throughout, and will leave it to the reader to fill in some blanks and discuss any flaws in the comments section. We are fully aware there are ample opportunities for nit-picking. C'est la vie. btw English is my 3rd spoken language, laugh with me of my flaws.
About Zero-Confirmation transactions (0-conf)
The original version of Bitcoin allowed for so-called "0-conf transactions". Although far from being perfectly secure, they allowed for the convenient and quick exchange of value between parties, at a reasonably and acceptable low risk, akin to that of currency forgery, in-person fraud and third-party processors charge backs. Here is a pertinent thread where Satoshi discusses this feature:
The 2 main features of 0-confirmation are: 1) A payer can spend his own change right away 2) Miners "generally" enforce "first-seen" policy - Optional, but they have an incentive to do so, and it's been indirectly but clearly demonstrated by some Peter Todd shenanigans with a Chinese miner.
Political bonus: Gavin Andresen and Tom Harding had devised a way to increase the security of 0-conf, but it was rejected by the Blockstream-influenced repository maintainers.
Suggested reading: On Zero Confirmation Transactions
About Replace by fee transaction (RBF)
After the briefly described political fiasco (above), Peter Todd managed to get RBF committed into the Bitcoin code. The thinking goes like this "The miners are rational profit maximizers: let them accept higher fees if people are offering it". That was the end of 0-conf in Corecoin/Segwitcoin.
Political bonus: It was at this point that Gavin Andresen and Mike Hearn were shunned and for all intent and purposes excluded from providing any meaningful development work for Bitcoin Core. A "standard operating procedure" still to this day: toe the party line, and you are made "incommunicado". Very convenient when Blocstream partisans "demonstrate" the absence of evidence of centralised control of the repository.
Typical rebuttal example:
What a bunch of bozos.
Remember folks: Absence of evidence =/= Evidence of absence!


The preceding section introduced a way to "double spend" a coin before its associated transaction is included in a block by a miner (RBF). Originally this "attack" vector also had a time constraint: since 95%+ of transactions were pickep-up in the very next block, speed was of the essence for the attacker. Not anymore.
Nowadays, it is not unusual for the mempool backlog to stay for extended periods of time above 40,000 transactions, with recent peaks way above 200,000 transactions. Assuming 2,500 transactions per block, this represents a backlog of 16 to 80 blocks. Naively assuming an even distribution of fees, the time required to process a transaction with an average fee is therefore 80 to 400 minutes + processing of incoming transactions. So: 80 to 400 minutes is an absolute best-case scenario (only a backlog, no incoming transacions). We could pull our fancy pencil and produce a detailled granulometry, but here it's not the point, the point is: 80 to 400 minutes is a long time, and most likely it will be days. I hope we all agree that a span of 80 minutes to several days is a long time to conduct an attack!
Bonus: I will spare you the story about the extension of the mempool's expiring delay, another blatant proof of Core's failure.
To witness the memory pool fiasco on the Corecoin/Segwitcoin chain (special thanks to nullc, please google: "Jochen mempool" or "Joehoe's mempool"
Remember folks: Time is money.


I drank too much wine on Friday. Woke up groggy Saturday morning to this post on /btc:
"I've been hacked. How to cancel an unconfirmed transaction?" imgur:
While trying to claim some "Bitcoin Diamond" (a scam coin), OP lost control of his private keys. Folks: please be very careful when you claim forked coins. Please do not ask me how to proceed, please search it on Google(Marxism), Reddit(Communist) or Bitcointalk(CensoredbyTheymos).
Fraudulent Transaction:
From (OP): 1QBN1ESphxUXSVD9jox9QUtTBkrDZuw7Nc To (Diamond Fraudster): 1F8EP97jgQx8QD6XMRg2bCHHrJrZEMUTRt
After some trial and error, we used the following procedure:
1) Create a raw transaction on +New > Transaction > Paste From address (OP's) > Paste To address under OP's control > Enter amount > Enter much larger fee
2) Click Submit > Copy transaction hash
3) Sign transaction from point 2 +Sign > Paste in larger box > Paste private key as indicated
4) Click Submit > Copy signed transaction hash
5) Broadcast signed transaction from point 3 +Broadcast > Paste it in
6) Click Submit
Et voilà, it worked:
Video reference:
My discussion with OP: imgur:
Special thanks to Peter Todd for breaking Bitcoin an allowing beta users, such as myself and OP to destroy Bitcoin security model. I weill be forever indebted.
Remember folks: Give credit where credit is due.
Do you wish Peter Todd (petertodd) and Greg Maxwell (nullc) did not break and cripple Bitcoin?
Do you wish you could use an unbroken and uncrippled version of Bitcoin?
Use BITCOIN CASH, the real, the true, the unadulterated version of Bitcoin, which stays true to the original tenets of Bitcoin, with 6 active developer teams (compare to centralised Corecoin / SegWitcoin, and its dictatorial "Reference client").

Bitcoin Cash is it folks!

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Theymos starting censoring the majority because he believed they were wrong about big blocks. Now the main agenda is that the majority wants small blocks and the majority is always right.

A couple posts by theymos...
About majoritarianism. Just because many people want something doesn't make it right.
If 90% of /Bitcoin users find these policies to be intolerable, then I want these 90% of /Bitcoin users to leave.
3 months ago...
There is no voting in Bitcoin. You can set up a million BIP148 nodes and it won't make any difference. For that matter, any individual person doesn't have much economic force, so I'm not sure that it'd make much difference even if you got 50% or 75% or 90% of /Bitcoin users to personally hard-enforce BIP148. You need significant economic actors: Bitcoin-accepting businesses, exchanges, etc. Maybe it's possible to succeed in a UASF without much business support, but then you need massive end-user support, which requires default-on hard enforcement in common software like Core. You're never going to succeed with grassroots political tactics but ~no time, ~no business support, and ~no default-on support in common software.
So it's pretty clear that the overlord of /bitcoin thinks that the majority of bitcoin users have no power towards it's development and direction. This started as him banning big blockers because he thinks he is smarter than the majority. And recently he's saying that the "majority" he has created in his echo-chamber have no power, but the businesses and exchanges do. Well, the businesses, exchanges and miners have decided, just like he said. Except it's on segwit2x.
But what's going on in /bitcoin now? (I don't believe these posts claiming they have the majority of user's support. It's just interesting how their thought process contradicts their leader who BANNED the majority and doesn't believe in the majority.)
Today, the large majority of the bitcoin user base supports the core roadmap.
it is readily apparent the majority of users (i.e. node operators or those who care enough to make their voice heard online) do not support NYA/the 2x fork
-There's also Luke-jr sybil resistant poll which indicate that the majority of users do not want a hard-fork now.
There are tons of posts like this all over /bitcoin.
So the "majority" is right? Then why wasn't the real majority right in the first thread I posted before theymos banned everyone? I guess the majority is only right when theymos has manufactured it. So theymos = majority. Always.
The /bitcoin "majority"TM and a few troll companies are literally all they have left after shifting the goal posts after every loss. Let's finish this in November.
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A collection of evidence regarding Bitcoin's problem and takeover (January 2018)

On November 22th I posted this
On December 27th I posted [this](
I have added a lot more links now, please give feedback on what else I could add for next time I will add (few weeks/month).
1 The history between btc and bitcoin
Archive link link
2 A brief and incomplete history of censorship in /Bitcoin
Archive link
3 User posts on bitcoin about 6900 BTC that theymos stole, post gets removed.
Archive link
4 Go to /noncensored_bitcoin to see posts that have been censored in /bitcoin
5 Theymos caught red-handed - why he censors all the forums he controls, including /bitcoin
Archive link
6 User gets banned from /bitcoin for saying "A $5 fee to send $100 is absolutely ridiculous"
Archive link
7 Greg Maxwell caught using sockpuppets
Archive link
8 Wikipedia Admins: "[Gregory Maxwell of Blockstream Core] is a very dangerous individual" "has for some time been behaving very oddly and aggressively"
Archive link
9 Remember how lightening network was promised to be ready by summer 2016?
Archive link
10 rBitcoin moderator confesses and comes clean that Blockstream is only trying to make a profit by exploiting Bitcoin and pushing users off chain onto sidechains
Archive link
11 "Blockstream plans to sell side chains to enterprises, charging a fixed monthly fee, taking transaction fees and even selling hardware" source- Adam Back Blockstream CEO
Archive link
Twitter proof
Twitter Archive link
12 September 2017 stats post of bitcoin censorship
Archive link
13 Evidence that the mods of /Bitcoin may have been involved with the hacking and vote manipulation "attack" on /Bitcoin.
Archive link
14 bitcoin mods removed top post: "The rich don't need Bitcoin. The poor do"
Archive link
15 In January 2017, someone paid 0.23 cents for 1 transaction. As of December 2017, fees have peaked $40.
16 Told to kill yourself by Bitcoin for cashing out
17 Bitcoin is a captured system
18 Bot attack against bitcoin was allegedly perpetrated by its own moderator and Blockstream’s Greg Maxwell
19 Remember: Bitcoin Cash is solving a problem Core has failed to solve for 6 years. It is urgently needed as a technical solution, and has nothing to do with "Roger" or "Jihan".
20 Bitcoin Cash has got nothing new.
21 How the Bilderberg Group, the Federal Reserve central bank, and MasterCard took over Bitcoin BTC
More evidence
22 Even Core developers used to support 8-100MB blocks before they work for the Bankers
23 /Bitcoin loves to call Bitcoin Cash "ChinaCoin", but do they realize that over 70% of BTC hashrate comes from China?
24 /bitcoin for years: No altcoin discussion, have a ban! /bitcoin now: use Litecoin if you actually need to transact!
25 First, they said they want BCH on coinbase so they could dump it. Now they are crying about it because it's pumping.
26 Luke-Jr thinks reducing the blocksize will reduce the fees..
27 Core: Bitcoin isn't for the poor. Bitcoin Cash: we'll take them. Our fees are less than a cent. Core: BCash must die!
28 How The Banks Bought Bitcoin. The Lightning Network
29 Big Blocks Can Scale, But Will It Centralize Bitcoin?
30 "Fees will drop when everyone uses Lightning Networks" is the new "Fees will drop when SegWit is activated"
31 Adam Back let it slip he hires full-time teams of social media shills/trolls
32 The bitcoin civil war is not about block size; it's about freedom vs. authoritarianism
33 Why BCH is the real Bitcoin
34 We don't need larger blocks, since lightning will come someday™, the same way we don't need cars or planes since teleporters will come someday™
35 We don't need larger blocks, since lightning will come someday™, the same way we don't need cars or planes since teleporters will come someday™
36 Facts about Adam Back (Bitcoin/Blockstream CEO) you heard it right, he himself thinks he is in charge of Bitcoin.
37 A explaination why Core's vision is different from the real Bitcoin vision
38 The dangerously shifted incentives of SegWit
39 Lighting Network was supposed to be released in 2016
40 You can now store a year's worth of continuously full 8MB blocks for the cost of a single BTC transaction
41 They say we are trying to Kill Bitcoin. No, we are not. We are trying to save it, and make it usable for everyone, and everything. Not tomorrow. Not 6 months from now, Not 18 Months from now. NOW. That's what's going on Here.
42 Miners that want to pull out daily have to switch to BCH due to the fees
43 At $25 #BTC tx fees, if miners want to withdraw their revenue daily, they require a minimum of $140,000 worth of mining hardware to reduce the tx fee to less than 1% of their outgoings. At a $100 tx fee it requires min $560,000. Which is the centralising coin again?
44 Core developer : Bitcoin fees too high? You have invested in early tech! Have faith. Give us time.
45 A redditor even predicted the /bitcoin front page
46 Elizabeth Stark of Lightning Labs admits that a hostile actor can steal funds in LN unless you broadcast a transaction on-chain with a cryptographic proof that recovers the funds. This means LN won't work without a block size limit increase. @8min17s
47 /bitcoin is in uproar about Coinbase not implementing Segwit -> mempool mooning is single handedly Coinbase' fault. So all it takes to bring bitcoin to its knees is a single corporate entity not implementing segwit? Me thinks its not Coinbase there's something wrong with.
48 /bitcoin for years: No altcoin discussion, have a ban! /bitcoin now: use Litecoin if you actually need to transact!
49 $BCH has been attacked in every way possible since it's creation. Exchanges listing it with deceiving names and abbreviations; being dumped by bitcoin holders for over 6 months; and it still managed to close every month positively, while adding numerous new wallet/exchange pairs
50 theymos claims that the whitepaper is a historical artifact not worthy of being on the sidebar of bitcoin
51 Even a Bitcoin conference can't use Bitcoin because of it's high fees
52 185% Growth in Active Addresses for BCH in 1 month, 125% for ETH, -5% for BTC
53 Shapeshift: "Sub-$100 fees unadvisable on BTC." Core supporters: "Implement Segwit already!" Shapeshift: "We did. We're the biggest user of Segwit."
54 How btc and Bitcoin see each other
55 Man who vandalized Bitmain's office hired by Blockstream
56 Bitcoin Cash vs Bitcoin Core compared. Just the facts
57 It was obvious from the very beginning that #Bitcoin transactions were meant to be as cheap as possible. Bitcoin Core has destroyed Bitcoin's usefulness as money by creating a system where $30 fees are celebrated. - @Bitcoin
58 User explains why Core's vision is not the real Bitcoin vision
59 Fake Tweet from the president bashes BCH on /bitcoin front page. Calling it exactly what it is will get you banned.
60 A public appeal to Michael Marquardt the original Theymos.
61 Now they are angry at the CEO of Coinbase for supporting BCH. It's like you are not allowed to have your own opinion without getting attacked.
62 bitcoin user says Bitcoin should not be used as a cryptocurrency
63 The five stages of grief, transaction fees
64 A brief history of the attempted takeover of Bitcoin by BlockstreamCore/The legacy banking systems/The Powers That Be
65 Warning! Theymos admitted he 'misled millions of people' yet he wanna 'leave the text as it is' to mislead more people!
66 "Wait. What? My private keys need to be on an internet-connected computer in order to use Lightning Network?"
67 a year ago Adam Back accused u/Jacktenz of exaggerated claims about fees. The truth is the claims were understated!
68 Roger Ver was not selling explosives, he was selling firecrackers.
69 Core devs pop champaigne, and openly celebrate high fees. Now core supporters blame coinbase for high fees?
70 Now that we've had a few 8MB blocks, let's dispel this centralisation myth once and for all.
71 Reddit admin sodypop on censorship in /Bitcoin: "We generally allow moderators to run their communities how they like as long as they are within our site-wide rules and moderator guidelines." Blatant censorship, hacking, vote manipulation, and brigading are "within [Reddit's] site-wide rules".
72 Another obvious sockpuppet account being used to push Blockstream's agenda.
73 Totally organic grassroots support for the #NO2X "movement." Definitely not a purchased sockpuppet account, you guys.
74 Charlie Lee [Litecoin creator]: "I have sold and donated all my LTC [...] Litecoin has been very good for me financially, so I am well off enough that I no longer need to tie my financial success to Litecoin’s success"
75 If it’s inaccessible to the poor it’s neither radical nor revolutionary.
76 BSCoretabs shills are vandalizing Wikipedia to smear Roger Ver with false quoting, missparaphrasing and accusations.
77 Introducing dipshit extraordinaire Warren Togami, the link between Theymos and BlockStream
78 Debunking: "Blockstream is 3 or 4 developers out of hundreds of developers at Core" - Tone Vays
79 This blockchain debate is purely political and is not about scaling but about control. X-Post from /bitcoin
80 A profile to look at for more evidence
81 What exactly is Blockstream Core's excuse for causing a year of stagnation in Bitcoin with no end in sight?
82 We have a way to build bank-like services.
83 "There is a reason why things are done in a certain way in the financial system, and Bitcoin will be doing something similar"
84 Some thoughts about the possible Bitcoin Segwit, Bilderberg/AXA/BockStream/Core, In-Q-Tel, CIA connection.
85 Theymos on Bitcoin XT
86 (If this is not allowed mods, please remove this text) I cannot verify this yet, but a source has given me information about theymos. theymos is known as Michael Marquardt, from Wisconsin and is a graduate from the University of Wisconsin as a computer-science student.
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Bitcoin is about to be dethroned.

For a number of years there's been an intense debate around how to scale the bitcoin protocol. Essentially the two sides were to increase the blocksize to allow more transactions to be processed in a block interval (on chain scaling) and to add another layer to the protocol to process transactions for low fees then occasionally push those to the main blockchain for settlement (lightning network or off chain scaling). There was an impasse for a long time but there was a gentleman's agreement made where the blocksize would be doubled as an immediate remedy but segragated witnesses would also be implemented and lightning network in the future.
A number of miners still weren't happy with the segregated witness development and consensus couldn't be achieved so on August 1st a contentious fork happened where two separate chains were created (one with the "improvement protocol" and one without). Anyone holding bitcoin at that time would be able to access their balance on both chains and would have equal amounts of bitcoin cash (BCH) and BTC. Because of this many people cashed out their positions in alt coins to get the free money and this caused a massive alt sell off. After the fork alts surged as everyone went shopping again and BCH dumped as people sold their free money to buy more BTC or alts.
In July I read a post on 4chan saying how the segwit 2x fork isn't going to go ahead and it's the plan all along that they will reneg on the gentleman's agreement and that will leave the BCH chain as the only chain with an immediate scaling solution as lightning network is still 6 months away minimum.
In the mean time the price of one BCH dropped down to around 0.05 btc but there were many people accumulating and some miners mining the BCH at a loss accruing over 100k bitcoins that they haven't moved yet. Once the 2x fork that was scheduled for the 16th of November was cancelled, there was a surge in alt coins but BCH started picking up. BCH was experiencing erratic block times because of the hashpower variance as mineras bounced between chains depending upon profitability so they implemented an Emergency Difficulty Adjustment so that the difficulty would adjust after every block based on the average of the 144 blocks prior whereas the bitcoin difficulty adjusts every 2016 blocks which is designed to be every 2 weeks.
Before the EDA was implemented and BCH had surged a little it became more profitable to mine so the majority of the hashpower from BTC moved over to mine BCH. This meant the BTC hashpower dropped by something like 80% and therefore the blocktime drew out to near an hour. At the same time people began spamming the network with low value, high fee transactions so that miners would process them first and ignore other low fee txs. This caused a massive congestion where at one point there was over 150k unconfirmed txs, with fees upwards of $50 and users still having to wait many hrs to have their tx confirmed. At the same time the price of BCH began soaring to 0.5BTC/BCH before a ddos on a korean exchange that was leading the charge caused it to dump back down to 0.2 across most exchanges.
Since then most of the hashpower has been on BTC to process the unconfirmed txs in the mempool and collect the lucrative fees even though BCH is now more profitable to mine. BTC went on another bull run backed by fraudulent USDT (deserving of another post entirely) and BCH retraced to 0.12.
Why have miners been colluding to mine BTC when it's more profitable to mine BCH? I believe that it's to maximize the difficulty for the next adjustment in 2 days at which time they will abandon mining BTC and jump on to BCH causing an instance of chain death spiral. BTC will lose the majority of it's hashpower, block times will increase by 5x, tx fees will skyrocket, BCH whales will dump their BTC for more BCH causing the price to surge (Roger Ver recently moved 45 000 BTC to exchanges), the exhorbitant fees on BTC will be less appealing to mine as the price of BTC slumps and we may well see the two coins achieve parity.
There's lots of factors at play here and I'm happy to answer questions but essentially many of the miners view the BCH chain as the chain most in alignment with Satoshi's vision (on chain scaling), bitcoin has had extreme censorship of any discussion for development other than that of bitcoin core devs (one mod theymos mods the sub as well as bitcointalk and, blockstream (owners of Lightning Network patents have been pushing core to use it as they get fees rather than the miners thus invalidating the game theory behind bitcoin), Chinese miners are the majority of hashpower and are choosing BCH which I see as aligning with a switch to an eastern led chapter in global finance, and rampant damage control shilling from the bitcoin core side of the debate on many crypto communities.
Anyone who bought into BTC since august 1, or who sold their BCH for cheap is is serious danger of losing the lot. Anyone who bought BCH has had the opportunity to up to 20x their stack of the "real bitcoin". If this goes down, it will ruin so many people and when people dissect how this happened, the censorship on reddit will be one of the most decisive factors.
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Blockstream CTO Greg Maxwell u/nullc, February 2016: "A year ago I said I though we could probably survive 2MB". August 2017: "Every Bitcoin developer with experience agrees that 2MB blocks are not safe". Whether he's incompetent, corrupt, compromised, or insane, he's unqualified to work on Bitcoin.

Here's Blockstream CTO Greg Maxwell u/nullc posting on February 1, 2016:
"Even a year ago I said I though we could probably survive 2MB" - nullc
And here's the same Blockstream CTO Greg Maxwell u/nullc posting on August 13, 2017:
Blockstream CTO: every Bitcoin developer with experience agrees that 2MB blocks are not safe
What happened to Blockstream CTO Greg Maxwell u/nullc between Feburary 2016 and August 2017?
Computers and networks have been improving since then - and Bitcoin code has also become more efficient.
But something about Blockstream CTO Greg Maxwell u/nullc has been seriously "deteriorating" since then.
What happened to Blockstream CTO Greg Maxwell u/nullc to make him start denying reality??
Ultimately, we may never know with certainty what the problem is with Blockstream CTO Greg Maxwell u/nullc.
But Greg does have some kind of problem - a very serious problem.
  • Maybe he's gone insane.
  • Maybe someone put a gun to his head.
  • Maybe someone is paying him off.
  • Maybe he's just incompetent or corrupt.
Meanwhile, there is one thing we do know with certainty:
Blockstream CTO Greg Maxwell u/nullc is either incompetent or corrupt or compromised or insane - or some combination of the above.
Therefore Blockstream CTO Greg Maxwell u/nullc is not qualified to be involved with Bitcoin.
Background information
The average web page is more than 2 MB in size.
"Even a year ago I said I though we could probably survive 2MB" - nullc ... So why the fuck has Core/Blockstream done everything they can to obstruct this simple, safe scaling solution? And where is SegWit? When are we going to judge Core/Blockstream by their (in)actions - and not by their words?
Previously, Greg Maxwell u/nullc (CTO of Blockstream), Adam Back u/adam3us (CEO of Blockstream), and u/theymos (owner of r\bitcoin) all said that bigger blocks would be fine. Now they prefer to risk splitting the community & the network, instead of upgrading to bigger blocks. What happened to them?
Core/Blockstream is living in a fantasy world. In the real world everyone knows (1) our hardware can support 4-8 MB (even with the Great Firewall), and (2) hard forks are cleaner than soft forks. Core/Blockstream refuses to offer either of these things. Other implementations (eg: BU) can offer both.
Overheard on r\bitcoin: "And when will the network adopt the Segwit2x(tm) block size hardfork?" ~ u/DeathScythe676 // "I estimate that will happen at roughly the same time as hell freezing over." ~ u/nullc, One-Meg Greg mAXAwell, CTO of the failed shitty startup Blockstream
Finally, many people also remember the Cornell study, which determined - over a year ago - that 4MB blocks would already be fine for Bitcoin.
The Cornell study took into consideration factors specific to Bitcoin - such as upload speeds, the Great Firewall of China, and also the possibility of operating behind Tor - and concluded that Bitcoin could support 4MB blocks - over a y ear ago.
You can read various posts on the Cornell study here:
So... what happened to Blockstream CTO Greg Maxwell u/nullc between February 2016 and August 2017?
Why is he stating "alternate facts" like this now?
And when is Blockstream CTO Greg Maxwell u/nullc going to be removed from the Bitcoin project?
The choice is simple:
  • Either Greg Maxwell - an insane, toxic dev who denies reality - decides the blocksize.
  • Or the market decides the blocksize.
The debate is not "SHOULD THE BLOCKSIZE BE 1MB VERSUS 1.7MB?". The debate is: "WHO SHOULD DECIDE THE BLOCKSIZE?" (1) Should an obsolete temporary anti-spam hack freeze blocks at 1MB? (2) Should a centralized dev team soft-fork the blocksize to 1.7MB? (3) OR SHOULD THE MARKET DECIDE THE BLOCKSIZE?
"Either the main chain will scale, or a unhobbled chain that provides scaling (like Bitcoin Cash) will become the main chain - and thus the rightful holder of the 'Bitcoin' name. In other words: Either Bitcoin will get scaling - or scaling will get 'Bitcoin'." ~ u/Capt_Roger_Murdock
Bitcoin Original: Reinstate Satoshi's original 32MB max blocksize. If actual blocks grow 54% per year (and price grows 1.542 = 2.37x per year - Metcalfe's Law), then in 8 years we'd have 32MB blocks, 100 txns/sec, 1 BTC = 1 million USD - 100% on-chain P2P cash, without SegWit/Lightning or Unlimited
Greg can suppress Bitcoin (BTC). But he can't affect Bitcoin Cash (BCC, or BCH).
Fortunately, it doesn't really matter much anymore if the insane / incompetent / corrupt / compromomised / toxic Blockstream CTO Greg Maxwell u/nullc continues to suppress Bitcoin (ticker: BTC).
Because he cannot suppress Bitcoin Cash (ticker: BCC, or BCH).
Bitcoin Cash (ticker: BCC, or BCH) simply adheres to Satoshi Nakamoto's original design and roadmap for Bitcoin - rejecting the perversion of Bitcoin perpetrated by the insane / corrupt Blockstream CTO Greg Maxwell u/nullc.
ELI85 BCC vs BTC, for Grandma (1) BCC has BigBlocks (max 8MB), BTC has SmallBlocks (max 1-2?MB); (2) BCC has StrongSigs (signatures must be validated and saved on-chain), BTC has WeakSigs (signatures can be discarded with SegWit); (3) BCC has SingleSpend (for zero-conf); BTC has Replace-by-Fee (RBF)

Bitcoin Cash (ticker: BCC, or BCH)

Bitcoin Cash is the original Bitcoin as designed by Satoshi Nakamoto (and not suppressed by the insane / incompetent / corrupt / compromomised / toxic Blockstream CTO Greg Maxwell).
Bitcoin Cash simply continues with Satoshi's original design and roadmap, whose success has always has been and always will be based on three essential features:
  • high on-chain market-based capacity supporting a greater number of faster and cheaper transactions on-chain;
  • strong on-chain cryptographic security guaranteeing that transaction signatures are always validated and saved on-chain;
  • prevention of double-spending guaranteeing that the same coin can only be spent once.
This means that Bitcoin Cash is the only version of Bitcoin which maintains support for:
  • BigBlocks, supporting increased on-chain transaction capacity - now supporting blocksizes up to 8MB (unlike the Bitcoin-SegWit(2x) "centrally planned blocksize" bug added by Core - which only supports 1-2MB blocksizes);
  • StrongSigs, enforcing mandatory on-chain signature validation - continuing to require miners to download, validate and save all transaction signatures on-chain (unlike the Bitcoin-SegWit(2x) "segregated witness" bug added by Core - which allows miners to discard or avoid downloading signature data);
  • SingleSpend, allowing merchants to continue to accept "zero confirmation" transactions (zero-conf) - facilitating small, in-person retail purchases (unlike the Bitcoin-SegWit(2x) Replace-by-Fee (RBF) bug added by Core - which allows a sender to change the recipient and/or the amount of a transaction, after already sending it).
  • If you were holding Bitcoin (BTC) before the fork on August 1 (where you personally controlled your private keys) then you also automatically have an equal quantity of Bitcoin Cash (BCC, or BCH) - without the need to do anything.
  • Many exchanges and wallets are starting to support Bitcoin Cash. This includes more and more exchanges which have agreed to honor their customers' pre-August 1 online holdings on both forks - Bitcoin (BTC) and Bitcoin Cash (BCC, or BCH).
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PSA: Amaury, Peter, Emin, Zander, all have 1 thing in common, they're all devs w/ big egos, underfunded, and eager to prove their worth "patching" bitcoin cash. Right now we're living the phase devs against bitcoin cash. BU+ trolls brigade rbtc heavily, take everything w/ a pinch of salt & DYOR!

I've noticed that the anti-CSW brigading in this sub has gotten really aggressive. I have been away from Reddit for a couple of month because my old account got shadowbanned and because I haven't had time to be online much.
Here is an old post I did about BU trolls 2 months ago that was removed because my account got shadowbanned.
BU's troll machinery includes a lot of devs (mediocre as well as good devs like Thomas Zander) and proper shills or UIs (useful idiots) who have been recruited to shill through BU's communities or chats. Communications wise BU is the closest thing to Blockstream from what I have seen in this subreddit.
BU's number 1 target is CSW. BU's number 2 target is Bitcoin ABC/Amaury.
Remember that everyone is welcome to contribute to Bitcoin Cash, but it is important to be aware of groups that engage in astroturfing to not allow any party to manipulate consensus.
In the Amaury-CSW controversy BU trolls have flocked around Amaury. Don't be fooled though, the same trolls only 1-2 weeks ago heavily brigaded any threads critical of Andrew Stone's OP_GROUP proposal (Amaury was the main critic) and tried to depict Amaury as a gatekeeper.
Amaury tends to act like a gatekeeper, yet brigading and astroturfing is not the way to deal with it.
BU's functional lead troll is Contrarian, I have seen Contrarian attack everyone, even Roger Ver as "a fraud" and felon except of Peter Rizun. Contrarian believes that Peter Rizun should be in charge of bitcoin cash (he stated this in at least one comment). He has attacked me of being a shill because of some old spammy link posts I did a long time ago in my profile. I have already explained that those were old posts when I was working in e-commerce which were done through social exchange sites like addmefast where you do something, accumulate points and in exchange can ask others to do something for you.
I invited Contrarian publicly for a youtube debate which he refused to do in order "to protect his identity". Remember that the most corrupt people in Bitcoin are Theymos and Cobra who also never come out in order "to protect their identity". When you hit Contrarian__ in reddit analyser this is what comes up:
The most used word is Craig, the second most used word is Satoshi. The whole point of this 7 years old account is to attack and discredit CSW. The account is 7 years old so the current owner probably bought it from another user and started using it to discredit CSW. Contrarian's critique of CSW boils down to "he is a liar" and he uses as proof white lies Craig said when he was forced to come out as Satoshi.
The bottomline is to remind everyone that the only irreplaceable thing in bitcoin cash is it being p2p cash. Everything else, every single dev is dispensable. Devs are at the service of miners and businesses, not vice versa. The moment devs stop serving businesses they should be kissed good bye.
Not with astroturfing.
But by abandoning or rejecting their software (even through a hard fork).
This way only we won't have another Blockstream in Bitcoin Cash, by having users and those closest to users (businesses & miners) in charge.
Bitcoin is above all a free market that consists of users, businesses and miners. Developers maintain the infrastructure, they do not design it. They can propose solutions but they cannot force feed changes or decide what to prioritize. Developers should develop exclusively what miners & businesses ask to be done, not what they think is required "to fix" the system. Recent attempts to fix non existent issues include also Amaury's pre-consensus (to make 0-conf more reliable, I still haven't met a business complaining about 0 conf) and other proposals to address the Selfish mining non issue. Selfish mining never happened in over 10 years, even when bitcoin's hash was much lower than today. Even if it's technically possible, the chances of it happening going forward are practically null. Selfish Mining very much reminds me of lightning, a nonexistent problem with an impossible solution.
On the plus side I can say that in almost 9 months of activity in this community I haven't seen any signs that Amaury employs shills or sockpuppets. The only sockpuppet that occasionally defend Amaury are BU/Blockstream sockpuppets in debates agains CSW.
Every dev should know that Bitcoin cash is open source, nobody is in charge other than the free market and only the market decides what is accepted and what is rejected. Not CSW. Not Amaury. Not BU. But hash and only hash.
Devs who want to impose their views on the market should drop bitcoin cash right now and start working on their own coin.
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Am 16. Oktober wurden die ersten Bitcoin-Geschäfte mit der Deponierung registriert. Die Vereinbarung wurde zwischen Nutzern nanotube und Diablo-D3 abgeschlossen. Die dritte involvierte Person ist theymos. Am 17. Oktober gab es einen Handels-IRC-Kanal #bitcoin-otc. Am 28. Stack Exchange network consists of 176 Q&A communities ... theymos. Apparently, this user prefers to keep an air of mystery about them. 111. answers. 0. questions ~270k. people reached. Member for 9 years. 433 profile views. Last seen Oct 5 '16 at 16:47. Communities (2) Bitcoin 8.3k 8.3k 34 34 silver badges 34 34 bronze badges; Stack Overflow 101 101; Top network posts. We respect a laser-like ... Earlier today, popular Bitcoin exchange Bitstamp announced how they will be implementing BIP 101 in a few days. As you would come to expect, it was only a matter of time until Theymos issued a comment on how Bitstamp will be removed from all Bitcoin references, including Reddit and the Bitcoin Wiki. Also read: Greek Banks Asked To Pay Bitcoin Ransom. Bitstamp To Be Banned From Bitcoin Resource ... Theymos, the owner of the BitcoinTalk forums and manager of /r/Bitcoin, posted an interesting comment on the situation. “This issue has been discussed for several years,” he said. User:Theymos/Paper Wallet. From Bitcoin Wiki < User:Theymos. Jump to: navigation, search. Casascius holding early paper wallets. In the most specific sense, a paper wallet contains all of the data necessary to generate any number of Bitcoin private keys, forming a wallet of keys. However, people often use the term to mean any way of storing bitcoins offline as a physical document. This second ...

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